New Feature: Points for good comments

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Here is a truth about life: some people are better than others. And some people are worse. All people are welcome to come dribble their two-cents worth all over the rancid chocolate pile we're building here on this site -- but until today, the good comments and the bad comments were heralded with equal glory.

Not any more! Thanks to some rootin' tootin' programmin', a select group of PoopReporters now has the ability to acknowledge comments that are awesome and coments that are awful. Comments that are awesome will be rewarded with visual recognition and bonus points for the author; comments that are awful will be marked as such, and the author will lose points for the three seconds of our lives he or she wasted.

A good comment is loosely defined as one that contributes something exceptionally funny, interesting, or insightful to the discourse; a bad comment is a flame, or something off topic, or something contributing absolutely nothing to the discourse. These definitions will probably evolve over time.

To keep things fair and bowelanced, each moderator's vote is worth 1/2 a user point. Which means two moderators need to agree that a comment is great or awful in order for it to be computed as such. Also, moderators can't vote for their own comments.

Questions? Comments? Suggestions? Obligatory complaints about censorship?

122 Comments on "New Feature: Points for good comments"

GottaGoGirl's picture
i 2000+ points

IIIII Like It! :) Particularly because I have a lame point total. Query: Would ALL comments be voted plus or minus, or just some selectively crappy/not-crappy-enough comments? And Oooh! Oooh! Did I get a first post? Wheeee! :)

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

Most comments will be voted neither plus or minus. Only the truly deserving on either end of the spectrum.

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

Dave, "loosely defined"? Do we need to take an Imodium and come back here?

(Okay, I'm posting this deliberately to see who will give it a "lame" rating!)

The Big Wiper's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Quality Moderatori 2000+ points

Well, the system works! I found an exceptionally entertaining comment today, voted for it as great, and the user immediately got 1 point. That meant that one other moderator had voted for it. I also found two other commments that I liked, but I must have been the first to award them because the user did not gain a point.

I certainly agree that most comments fall into the 'average' category and will be left alone. I have decided to be very careful with the 'lame comment' category, however. I'll try to give people the benefit of the doubt.

Dumpster: your comment is not lame. It's funny. Anyone that makes me smile or laugh is okay in my book anytime.

Pulling My Pants Down For Peace, Plop and Posterity!

TurdyTreeAnaTurd's picture
l 100+ points

Oh man! If only you'd go a step further and divide points into 1/3's, my hope of having 33 1/3 points could be fulfilled. Since we make a lot of points about turds on here, a turd of a point seems appropriate! And if I make a lame comment about shi!!ing on the formica next to the sink and lose points for it, would that be a "counter" point?

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

TT&T, you just have to make three times as many comments as other people!

GottaGoGirl's picture
i 2000+ points

TBW--I agree that overuse of the "lame" tag might eventually lead to some complexes and require therapy that is not covered in the HMO package. Some of us have delicate sensibilities (~snort of laughter~) :)

SamDamnit's picture
Comment Quality Moderatorj 1000+ points

I would like to say that I approve of the new Comment Gestapoo. They are key in the battle against the turd terrorists. GOD BLESS OUR POOPS!

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Bunga Din's picture
j 1000+ points

My only question is what happens with the points going to anonymous coward and the other non registurds?

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

Bunga, I just asked that question over on the forums. I think we need to know, to save ourselves a lot of work. Especially, what happens in the (unlikely) event that you mark it good and I mark it bad, or vice versa? What appears on the page?

And what are we getting paid for this, anyway?

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

Comments from unregistered users can be acknowledged for being great or awful. The label will appear. Since they're not registered, though, nothing will happen with points.

Dave's picture
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"What happens in the (unlikely) event that you mark it good and I mark it bad, or vice versa?"

Those votes cancel each other out.


"And what are we getting paid for this, anyway?"

Don't make me moderate your ass!

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

GGG writes that "overuse of the "lame" tag might eventually lead to some complexes and require therapy that is not covered in the HMO package. Some of us have delicate sensibilities."

This is an imPOOrtant point. As a sometime professor of Constitutional Law, I am aware of the "chilling" effect that even potential censorship has on speech. Not speaking for Pope Dave, but I don't think the purpose of quality moderation is to say, "I don't agree with your post," "your post is not funny to me," "I don't understand your post," or even, "your &*^%ing post is offensive to me!"

Rather, I hope we are trying to apply a "contemPOOrary community standard." Is this post representative of the sort of thing that PR stands for? Does it compliment or contradict our mission in some significant way? Or is its primary purpose to advance an agenda unrelated to the movement of the bowels?

It is sort of like the U.S. Supreme Court's best definition of pornography (in the words of the late Justice Potter Stewart): "I know it when I see it."

Damn: "Potter Stewart." With a name like that, if there were ever a Supreme Court of Poopreportia, he would HAVE to be the Chief!

AssBlaster2000's picture
PoopReport of the Year Awardj 1000+ points

Dumpster's comment above earned a "great comment" from me. We will not be bringing comments down just because we don't agree with them or because of a personal vendetta. We will be voting them down if they are retarded or irrelevant to the topic. (Which means I anticipate losing a great deal of points due to the latter.) Many of the comments in that category get deleted as it is, but those that miss our keen eyes or that are too old to be deleted will get the thumbs down.

Bunga: Unregistered users will neither lose nor gain points, of course, because they don't get points, but sometime in the future Dave may implement a functionality that allows users to filter out comments that have been voted as lame, so we don't have to spend our time reading them. So, if you see a lame comment by an unregistered user, you may save someone in the future five seconds of their life spent reading it by giving five seconds of yours to rate it as lame.

mott the poople's picture
l 100+ points

Shit....I hope I dont lose too many points.
Oh well...I'll still have fun here

Question??
Is there going to be a way to track the latest lame comments? Who was too drunk to be thinking and typing the night before? (like me)
Maybe a lame of the month?

Asphincter says WHAT...(!)

Asphincter says WHAT...(!)

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

AB2K writes, "We will be voting them down if they are retarded or irrelevant to the topic. (Which means I anticipate losing a great deal of points due to the latter.)"

I want to understand what you are saying about comments that are off-topic. I don't think you really mean to say that all off-topic posts will be downgraded, because I know you've always been a stauch defender of letting the threads go where they may. We all know that's sometimes how you end up with the best/funniest stuff.

I'm thinking about the recent post "Not Without My Baby" (I'm not taking time to link it) where everybody got so wound up over the poor woman giving her 6-month-old a McDonald's french fry, which had nothing to do with the main subject of what she did with the baby while she made a crisis crap at Target. Certainly, it was off-thread, but it was entertaining as hell in its own way!

Don't you really mean we should diss things that are either completly off-site (fetishism, etc,; in the unlikely event it gets past the mods); or like some totally stupid, irrelevant, Trashcanman-type comment; or spam, like

***POST TERMINATED BY PR MODERATOR***

AssBlaster2000's picture
PoopReport of the Year Awardj 1000+ points

Well, Dumpster, off-topic is one of the criteria for suckiness in the drop-down boxes, so I imagine at least one of my posts will get the designation. However, I do enjoy letting the threads go where they may, and don't intend to change that. I don't think that veering slightly off the original topic should be penalized, however sometimes people take it too far, and I know I do at times also.

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

I guess this means I need to have my Ritalin prescription refilled?

SamDamnit's picture
Comment Quality Moderatorj 1000+ points

I like circus peanuts.


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The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

Sam clearly needs to have HIS Ritalin prescription refilled, too!

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

"Lame of the month" is a good idea, as is highglighting the best comments of the month. There's no automatic way to do it right now, but maybe some day.

Cracktacular's picture
l 100+ points

I like this idea. It gives me much to aspire towards. Plus, I'm kinda hoping that at some time in the future I can redeem my points for a 6 ft. stuffed Scooby Doo or amaybe a bunch of those plastic jumping frogs. Ahhhhhh, bliss.

Crack kills

Fart Poopie's picture
j 1000+ points

One thing that bothers me about this new system is that it says "you can't post comments" under every single post. It's a bit annoying. Anyway to fix it?

pooptastic's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

They have this sort of thing set up on another site that I frequent, and they have actually bit them in the ass [pardon the metaphor]

Usually the points are good, but they can quickly backfire if things get out of hand, like n00bs enter the scene or people have too much time on their hands. I really hope that this will just be one of those *ooh, I got a +1 point! yay for my e-ego!* and not turn into pointwars.
0.o

Poop Shooter's picture
k 500+ points

Way cool idea, I like it. yet another Pooooorific idea from the PR admin.

I want to know if I will loose a point because I can't type very well. It's a good thing there are a zillion ways to spell poop, because I usually type badly and it still comes out as some sort of crap!


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The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

I would not judge quality by typing, grammar, etc., alone, but in this, as in every other area of life, there is almost always a relationship between the quality of what one has to say and the quality of how it is said. (This observation comes in no small part from having spent 25 years grading exams.) Thus, while a poorly worded or spelled comment might not get marked "lame" only for that reason, it is also that much less likely to be marked "excellent."

I suggest using the "Preview Comment" feature. It is interesting how typos slip by until you are looking at it up there in black and yellow as it will appear on the page.

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

One thing that bothers me about this new system is that it says "you can't post comments" under every single post. It's a bit annoying. Anyway to fix it?

I didn't know that that was happening. We'll get rid of that today.

I really hope that this will just be one of those *ooh, I got a +1 point! yay for my e-ego!*

I think that mods will punish very quickly any posts like that. And should annoying posts get out of hand, we'll institute a system in which lame posts are automatically hidden.

Bashful Buns's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

CrapCrapCrapCrap!! Oh the pressure!! I'm DOOMED!! GAAAAA!! Funny, interesting and/or insightful? How do I do that? We still get a point for mediocure posts, right? Please note the correct spelling of mediocure :-)

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

BB, we will note it when we see it.

Bashful Buns's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

Dumpster - I thought I got it right. I spell checked it Word.

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

Okay, Dave, one more question: Just as a test, I went and rated your most recent comment above "great." Not that EVERY, SINGLE SYLLABLE written by you isn't great, but who am I to brown-nose?

Anyway, I then went back up to the top and it told me that, as a result of my moderation, "User Dave had lost O points"! (Emphasis added.) Why would the system be concerned with your potentially losing points, when a positive moderation ought to set you up to potentially gain them? (AB2K, please excuse the split infititive.)

Does this matter, or is this just one of those situations where I should shut up and wear beige?

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

My God, BB--this is one of those situations where Bill Gates is ruining the world, one mistake at a time. You are correct that the spellchecker in Microsoft Word recognizes "mediocure" as a word, but EVERY dictionary you look at spells it "mediocre."

However, google "mediocure" and you will see it all over the Internet. Similarly, Word recognizes "Calvinism" as a term, but not "Wesleyanism," thus showing the Baptist bias of Microsoft.

God, this world is succumbing to mediocurty! And I have to go teach class!

Bashful Buns's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

BILL GATES IS THE ANTICHRIST!!! What good is he if he can't help a chick to spell?! Does he not know the ramifications of his crappy spellchecker? No wonder people think I'm a flippin' idiot. I better stop this - I'm probably close to losing points for getting off the topic of losing points.

Dave's picture
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"Does this matter, or is this just one of those situations where I should shut up and wear beige?"

Yeah, don't worry about it. A quirk of the system.

PooperGal's picture
k 500+ points

This site just keeps upping the ante for poop astuteness. I give this new function a big Thumbs Up (but not up anyone's sphincter...)


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The Shit Volcano's picture
Comment Quality Moderatorh 3000+ points

We should have a feature in our personal profiles that allows us to keep track of how many "great" and "lame" comments we have earned. It is easier to keep track of the personal witty/stupidity factor.

I found Jesus! He was behind the sofa the whole time!

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

I second TSV, if that wouldn't be too hard to do. ('Course, it might make some of us quit!)

BB, I just gave you a "Great Comment" rating for your "BILL GATES IS THE ANTICHRIST" post. Don't worry; nobody's going to flame you over a few typos, and in my view, far from getting off the topic, you are helping to define it. Hang around on PR, my friend; it will up your literary IQ!

GottaGoGirl's picture
i 2000+ points

I'm sorry. I'm confused. Is the neat little white box with the words "Great Comment" meant for the post it follows, or the poster it appears above?

SamDamnit's picture
Comment Quality Moderatorj 1000+ points

above


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Poop Shooter's picture
k 500+ points

...neat little white box??? I don't see a neat little white box. AM I missing something or just not special?


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mott the poople's picture
l 100+ points

All the good vs evil...
Makes me think of Larry Flynt.
How about sphincter of the month???
Is it good or bad....the PR gods will choose

Asphincter says WHAT...(!)

Asphincter says WHAT...(!)

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

PS writes, "...neat little white box??? I don't see a neat little white box. AM I missing something or just not special?"

Dave, maybe you should put up a visual of this like you did on the forums so people will understand.

Fart Poopie's picture
j 1000+ points

Yay!! You got rid of that annoying "cant post comments" line. My eyes thank you.

daphne's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardSite AdminComment Content ModeratorComment Quality Moderatore 6000+ points

Well, that blows my points all to hell seeing as I'm the derailing Queen of Poopeport......I guess it all had to end somehow.
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Bunga Din's picture
j 1000+ points

Daphne, if anyone is stupid enough to give you a negative for derailing I think Dave would yank their moderating abilities. I have yet to see a post of yours derailing a thread that hasn't been entertaining...Billy Joel moment here...don't go changing....don't know the rest..I hate Billy Joel.

The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

Daph, you are also a Quality Moderator, so you can read my full post on the forums, but at the risk of being presumptuous (when has that ever stopped Dumpster?), I'm submitting an abridged version of it here, both in affirmation of you, and to let people know how at least one other moderator thinks (and I am only one of several!):

"This is just one Dumpster's POV, but here are

"Things that tempt me to click the "quality" button:

"Poetry (if it is good), or a good paraphrase of a classic quote (such as the parody of Psalm 23 that is getting Bunga all the brownie points).
Keen insights into the philosophy of poop, or of PR (sorry, Dave, that I don't feel I can reward ALL your posts; just most of them.)
A comment that adds a new layer or dimension to the original story or thread, or a funny sub-story [That's YOU, daph!].
Extra-funny, spit-through-your-nose comebacks.
A tasteful or humorous putdown of a lamer/flamer.
Comments that brown-nose Dumpster (just kidding!!)

"Things that make me reach for the "lame" button:

"Spam-type posts; people just posting to gain points (not that I have ever done that, O no!!).
Self-laudatory comments. Who was the guy in Pillpooper's post about being put in jail who claimed he knew all the lawyers and all the policemen in his town?
Smart-ass comments, or those unduly rude to others.
Comments so poorly written that they make little or no sense. This includes [to some extent] bad spelling/grammar/excessive use of Internet jargon, but [primarily those] also lacking a clear thought.

"What is the collective definition of "lame"?

"Since most of the bad stuff doesn't make it past the "flushers" (my term), I find myself praising a lot more than I criticize. Thus, there is possibly a site-wide inflationary factor to this program overall, but that simply represents added value, in my humble opinion.

[And, daph, to address your most pressing concern:]

"I am not opposed to stuff going off-thread, because that usually doesn't happen until the original thread has gone a bit stale, or if the original thread is still interesting, people will pull it back. It is different if somebody is deliberately trying to derail a thread, but, hey, all it takes is one good post to get back on topic.

"This is somewhat like grading exams, but a helluva lot more fun!"

So, good PoopReporters, one and all, just be yourselves! You have nothing to lose but the junk!

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

Poop shooter: scroll up to see both good comment and bad comment boxes in actions.

If you're a firefox user, you may have to do a shift-refresh to download the updated stylesheet. Click "reload" while holding shift. At least, that's how it works on a mac, anyway.

Dave's picture
PoopReport of the Year AwardComment Content Moderatora 10000+ points - Super Pooperb 9000+ pointsc 8000+ pointsd 7000+ pointse 6000+ pointsf 5000+ pointsg 4000+ pointsh 3000+ pointsi 2000+ pointsj 1000+ pointsk 500+ pointsl 100+ pointsm 1+ points - Newb

While I appreciate The Dumpster's effort, I feel that the more one tries to define it, the more exceptions people will be able to find. What it comes down to is just like The Dumpster said way, way up on the page: you know it when you see it. Each moderator will make his or her own decision based on his or her own criteria; because it's a group effort, the aggregate action will be that worthy comments rise and worthless comments sink slowly to the depths.

1337 poo's picture
m 1+ points - Newb

lets just hope this comment system doesnt turn PR into another slashdot. God i hate that place.

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The Dumpster's picture
i 2000+ points

What is "slashdot"?

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